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chocolate. he was charged with trespassing and misusing the 911 system. ♪ you do the hokey-pokey and you turn yourself around ♪ ♪ that's what it's all about >> more than 7,300 people broke the record for the largest hokey-pok, y fan. officials were there to make it on record there. it's the top of the hour. i'm tom foreman in the top of the news, president obama has a new plan to boost the economy. especially small businesses. and administration officials tell our ed henry this proposal will be unveiled on wednesday and will include a tax credit for business research and development cost. this comes amid other breaking news. a new cnn pn research poll showing how desperate americans
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are for answers. 8 out of 10 americans think economic conditions are poor. 44% chose republicans. 35% say it's the democrats. 1 16% blame both. the national small business today on cnn state of the union nsba head said the bill will free up a lot of credit for small companies at a very low coast to the government. but he also criticized president obama for not acting earlier. the president of the aflcio does not great. candy crowley asked both men to in on how president obama is handling the economy. >> what has the president from your point of view done right, and what has he done wrong? >> he has focused on limiting stuff for small companies. he seems to get the need to really inject capital into small companies and how it's really the life blood of what they do.
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he's not focused on that early enough. now and in september into the end of a recession. this should have been on the table a year and a half ago. now they're also talking about a payroll tax holiday. we were talking about that a year and a half ago. something like should have been in the first stimulus package, and we would be in better shape than we are now. >> let's remember what he inherited. he enherred a banking industry or an economy about to fall off the end of a cliff. he inherited a recession. he has created more jobs in this recession than george bush did in eight years as president with a surplus. >> mr. obama will spend a lot of time talking about the economy
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this week. it's a big push by the democrats and all politics. this kicks off the final stretch into the midterm elections, which are so important at this point. the president will spend labor day in milwaukee. he has a news conference on friday. and he has his work cut out for him. i mentioned the poll a minute ago. it gives the president a 40% approval rating on his handling of the economy. the lowest for him since he took office. let's bring in mark preston to talk about all of this. this is just a dreadful time for the democrats. republicans aren't much better off. they're not the ones in charge now. >> you're right. tom. when you look at the numbers there, you know, voters out there still lay blame at the economy at the foot door of republicans. the anger is aboutincumbency.
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looking ahead to the midterm elections democrats are on the defense. >> mark, what i'm struck by is the democrats nationally seem to have no unify message whatsoever. was the stimulus good? was the stimulus bad? you've been working the phones? washington. what are people telling you? >> well, there's two tactics at play. let's talk about the republican tactics. they want to nationalize the election. one strategist told me it's an 80-20 formula. 80% of the election is about democrats and their failure to turn the economy around. the other 20% is about republicans and what republicans need to do is to really try to become the viable alternative. democrats are trying to localize the election and say do you really want to vote me out of power? i've been in washington for issues important to you for health care reform or wall street reform. the upside lying issue comes
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down to the economy. the fact is the economy continues to be stagnant, and democrats are really trying to fight against that and say we have answers, republicans don't have answers. that's what we're looking at heading into november. >> one huge problem is when they say they have answers, people will say, where is the evidence? all the numbers are against them. >> the argument is the republicans haven't put up the answers, so to speak. within a couple week we'll see a blueprint set forth by republican leaders here in washington that will have the answers. or at least that's what they're telling me in washington. democrats are vulnerable to losing the house of representatives. they could lose the senate. if we were to talk to analysts across the country, republicans will pick up more governorships
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in this election. again, not shaping up to be a great year. >> mark preston, we want to hear more from you. a very important election coming up from the whole political team in d.c. as you just heard, times are tough for many americans. we're also asking another question tonight. in this economy, on your personal level, beyond all the the politics, is two incomes still better than one? we have some surprising answers coming up. plus, can the afghan government really reintegrate taliban militants back to afghan society? president karzai has created a peace counsel to pursue talks with the taliban. the question is, will it work? i'll talk with "the new york times" reporter who was kidnapped by the taliban and escaped. on the most demandink in the world. with us, in spirit, was every great car that we'd ever competed with. the bmw m5. and the mercedes-benz e63. for it was their amazing abilities that pushed us to refine, improve and, ultimately,
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in afghanistan this weekend, president hah mad karzai announced a peace counsel to pursue talks with the taliban. it's the latest step on the part of the a began government to reintegrate some militants back to afghan society. the question is, how realistic is this idea that such staunch enemies can ever be won over and trusted? just today the times of london ran an investigative report that says iran has set up dummy corporations to finance the militants. the going rate is $1,000. joining us is new york times reporter david rode. he was captured and kidnapped by the taliban and held captive for seven months before he escaped. how much faith do you have in this idea? is this a real possibility, or is this a pipe dream? >> i would say most analysts think that it's a small step
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forward. there ma be many local taliban commanders inside afghanistan itself that might broker agreements and so these analysts say it's okay for president karzai to go ahead with the approach, but the real issue is the safe havens that exist inside pakistan. unless the army is willing to pressure the taliban using safe havens to launch cross border attacks against american soldiers, it will be impossible to defeat the taliban. it's a small step forward. but without pakistan doing more, it's not going to solve the situation. >> with that said, i keep thinking about how in iraq the awakening movement was a big turning point there, and clearly there's a sense that can be replicated. it seems to me the circumstances are different enough that to expect that kind of 180 turn like we had in iraq would be a bit problematic.
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>> well, again, i think it's worth, and most analysts would say it's worth trying. there is still in public opinion polls, most afghans did not support the taliban. there's a lot of allegations. it's definitely worth trying to win over some taliban to the government side. but you are correct that afghanistan and iraq are very different. will pakistan help? will iran help? >> do you think the people are susceptible to this agreement, or will they say, no, we're here for the long haul. we're going to win. >> i think there are probably local taliban inside afghanistan that would be willing to.
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many are fighting for power in their own districts. if they could get posts there, they be willing to reconcile with the government. another is based inside pakistan's tribal areas. they work with foreign fighters including arabs. that second group based in pakistan will not, i think, agree to this sort of reconciliation program. it's going to be a two-pronged approach to lead t reconciliation it may take military pressure on other groups. >> from "the new york times," that's david rhode. millions of americans are struggling in the economy, but is the age-old standard of two incomes still better than one?
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>> on this labor day holiday weekend you may notice we're doing a lot of stories about job. we want to turn to a common perception that families have, especially when times are bad. the need for both partners to work. there's a question about that. are two incomes always better than one? jennifer is ce of the family financial network. let me start out. it seems like a no brainer. you need more money, get two
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jobs. that's good. is it always good? >> it does seem like a no brainer. for many families it does make sense. at a time when there is so much insecurity about jobs and concerns of health care benefits. a lot of families use a second income to maybe save for a specific goal, like college or maybe even financing a business. >> there a lot of hidden costs with a second income. if you're not making enough, it can be a problem. >> you're right. that's the issue. becoming the victim of the dual income trap if you will. let's say the second person earns $50,000 in income. you have $10,000 to $15,000 going to taxes. that leads you with $35,000. we have clothing cost.
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we have transportation. maybe a car to get to our job. maybe we've got child care expenses. if you take those combined, they can easily come up to $15,000. that with wittle the net pay down to $20,000. then, of course, maybe you're thinking, gosh, does it make sense to have somebody at home raising my kids versus me? those are real questions that the couples need to ask themselves. >> this is where people on the individual basis have to do the math and not make an assumption. for any given family, there may be hidden costs. like if you have a big yard and you're working so much you have to hire someone to mow the lawn or smug like that. >> you get. if somebody is going to decide to stay home, it may make sense to sort of take over the services that could be mowing the lawn or taking care of the kids or ian doing the accounting, which so many women do increasingly at home. so there are times when one
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income does make sense. maybe you're picking up additional costs. certainly if you have a secure job with health care benefits. if you have low debt. you don't want to be relying on one income if you have a fair amount of debt that you have to pay off every month. >> you have a rule of thumb people can apply if they look at the cost of their living space or home or apartment. >> that is you don't want your housing cost to be more than 25% of your monthly pay before taxes. the example would be if one person's income is $4,000 a month, they should not have ideally more than $1,000 going to rent or the housing payment. that's for all sorts of reasons, including making sure they can pay off the debt but also have room in case they face a financial crisis down the road.
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>> there's people who worry about stepping out of the workplace. they may say i have young children at home. this is the right time to do this. it would make financial sense for my family. but i'm so afraid three years from now that i'll not be able to get back in or i'll have to come at a lower level. is there a good way to go about this if you want to? >> yes, and that's a very real issue. one terrific is idea is if you leave your employer, see if you can great an agreement to continue working for them as a contractor, maybe on a part time basis? it keeps your skills honed. it avoids a gap on your resumé. the other thing is to participate in nonprofit or community organization. maybe something your kids are involved in as a way to have the presence with your kids. also to add something else to your resumé. the key thing is to take on an
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accomplishment where you can show tangible ruls and build good networking relationships that will build your resumé. >> jennifer, thank you so much from the finely financial network. we appreciate you joining us here. coming up in ten minutes, a special cnn cover story. washed away. dr. sanjay gupta takes us to pakistan where massive flooding has devastated millions of lives. acres of crops destroyed. unforgettable stories coming up. you don't want to miss that. plus craigslist has been under pressure to make changes to the site. now some state attorney generals are closer to having it their way. [ woman ] nine iron, it's almost tee-time...
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advocates to protect women and children against sex trafficking are noticing a major switch on the american bulletin board. the adult section of kraix list was shut down. the folks at craigslist aren't giving us an exact reason yet, but they say they'll release a statement later on. 17 state attorney general called on craigslist to take this action, including connecticut's richard bloomenthal, who helped lead the charge. what is your reaction to this
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step by craig list? >> i'm very pleased. we have received no definite or definitive word from craigslist itself that the shutdown is permanent and complete. but it is certainly welcomed. if it remains shut down it will be a model for other sites, we hope. because craigslist is the biggest. the scope and scale are unmatched by any others. and it's a good step. but a continuing battle has to be fought. >> you raise an interesting point. there are other sites and weekly newspapers and all sorts of places where these ads appear. is it natural that your group of attorney general would then pursue further these other sites and say now let's put the pressure on them? >> we have other sites in our sites so to speak. these prostitution ads lead to other serious criminal activity. they are not vikless crimes.
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assaults on women. human trafficking. we have been joined by strong and force l advocates in the private sector. like the center for missing and exploited children is a good ally. our coalition of attorney general is growing on this shoe. we are in excess of 20 now. i'm very privileged to lead it. every one of them has been a leader in his or her state. >> beyond this country, because the internet is a global phenomenon some advocacy groups say there needs to be a way to take this beyond the u.s. borders. is there anything your group can or would attempt to do on that front? >> very good question. in terms of our reach and our ultimate goal, certainly beyond the borders of this country since the internet reaches beyond our borders, very important that human
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trafficking, for example, which can be an international activity be stopped beyond the borders. right now our focus is on krigs list. we want to verify it's shutting down. our focus is on law enforcement within the borders. and victims within the reach. we also need to think of changes in the law. which right now give these sites virtually complete immunity. they claim. from any accountability for these prostitution ads. craigslist says it cannot be held legally responsible for anything on its site. my belief is, strongly, and it's my personal belief, that we need to change that law to hold the sites more accountable than they
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are now. that would reach beyond the borders. >> i should mention you are running for the senate. we asked the republican candidate linda mcmahon to join us as well. we hope she will in the future. best of luck to both of you in your campaigns. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> an immediate threat to the young people of this country is what attracted the concern of cnn's own amber lyon. she turned up the pressure on craigslist to make this happen. she confronted the founder about the site's safeguards. coming up at 10:00 p.m. eastern, we'll show you the report she filed just a few weeks before the adult section shut down. some important reporting that you ought to see. another threat to human lives. weeks after floods devastated pakistan, more than 1,700 people
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>> this is the cnn cover story washed away. sanjay gupta m.d. leads a journey through the floods of pakistan. >> we were literally in boats in the same place that we had been walking the day before. >> seven and a half million pakistanis are stranded, displaced, without a home. >> there was just a riot out here. needed medicines, antibiotics, ended upd on the ground shattered. >> reporter: and the success of the u.s. aid effort could impact the security of the united states itself. >> what these monster floods have done now is shift the focus of the pakistani military away from these militant groups and
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towards flood recovery, flood reli relief. >> the second wave, disease carried by polluted water is moving through the population. >> these children are sick. this is a treatment center to take care of them. >> we know we can use resources that are effective and efficient. if we do that now, we will save lives and prevent disease and save children. >> we're in this camp. we come upon this girl doing her homework in the tent. in the middle of all that pain and all of that, she's doing her homework. >> wait until you meet that girl at the end of this show. you will be astonished. welcome to the cnn cover story. we call it washed away. the floods in pakistan raging since the july monsoons have washed away an area the size of new england, they have the potential to erode u.s. security, a subject we'll address shortly. it's now 4:30 in the morning in pakistan where 7.5 million pakistanis have lost their homes
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to these floods. we don't know how many people have been killed. nobody knows. we'll explain why. >> translator: we tried to get out, and i could only grab a few my children. we couldn't grab two of them. they went in the water. she has not filed a missing persons report. villagers tell us they don't tell the government because they don't believe anyone from the government will do anything anyway. so instead they hire gentlemen like this. he's a fisherman fishing out bodies here. he says he's found about 16 or 17 bodies. he's lost count. the government expects the death toll to rise significantly because families have not filed missing persons reports. >> so, as sarah reports there, the death toll is unclear. so is the impact on u.s. security. but, first, let's look at the humanitarian disaster as documented by our chief medical
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correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta and his team. >> reporter: a fighting chance here in pakistan. it is all they can hope for. this farmer didn't get any warnings when the floods came. we just ran, he says. he grabbed his wife, he grabbed his kids. he ran. and they took all they could. you're looking at it here. they are staggeringly poor. but they want ad fighting chance. escaping the flood, they thought they made it. >> translator: she started to get a fever. she couldn't keep anything down. she had lots of belly pain. >> reporter: she's talking about her 3-month-old daughter benazir. a few months later the same thing happened to her son, a 2-year-old. they brought them both here to civil hospital, and doctors right away knew these children
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were sick, but with such limited resources, there was only so much they could do. let's take a look. two to three patients per bed in this hospital. do you have enough beds? do you have enough resources in. >> no. there is no resources. there is some population from other provinces. >> reporter: the problem, bad water everywhere. with not enough good clean water to go around, well, many, too many have started to drink this. millions of people. cholera, dysentery, typhoid. >> some of the children look very sick. you have at least two children per bed, some on the floor. are you going to run out of space there are hundreds of thousands of people out there. what happens to them?
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>> we can't do anything. >> what are the chances this child will survival? >> i think 50/50. >> wazir and benazir wouldn't get that fighting chance. this is their obituary. they didn't make it to the hospital. both children died on the way there the 2-year-old weighed just eight pounds. and the 3-month-old, just two pounds. i don't want her to cry. sit here. sit here. it's okay. her belly is disdended. that's the problem. it's hard. it doesn't push in. give her some formula to keep the calories down and give her medicine for nausea, but really no antibiotics, which is bad
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because the people have infections. these are just two of the millions affected by the floods. this is the new normal. living among dozens of strangers on mats, incredible, unimaginable loss. two children dead in one week. now their mission to not lose another child, to save this child, she is already sick. and she wants to give her a fighting chance. >> mothers searching for the strength to keep their children alive, the struggle repeated throughout pakistan. of course, this disaster is so much more, too. when cover story, washed away, returns, we'll explain the text between pakistan and the security of the united states. this disaster presents a real challenge too the fight against extremism. all part of the journey with the
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they survive the flood, and then they think they did all the right thing, and the kids get sick. >> that was the hardest part for me. saying that. you think you prepare. and these families are just like every one of our families. it's striking it's totally relatable. that part was hard to see. >> you can see how dehydrated
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they are. you push on the tips of your fingers, and the blood doesn't come back quickly. so dehydrated. >> we're going to get back to what our chief medical correspondent dan jay gupta and his team have documented in a few moments. we want to turn to the security dimension for the united states. big concerns are triggered by these floods. to answer those, we've called on a correspondent for two and a half years. he knows the country well. zplr washington's wish is for the pakistan military to go after these militant groups, and for the past couple of years they've done a very effective jobs in doing so, but what these monster floods have done now is shift the focus of the pakistani military away from the the militant groups towards flood recovery and flood relief. they have 60,000 soldiers in
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addition to police and security forces working in flood relief and flood recovery with the pressure off the military groups. they could give them the opportunity to regroup, re-energi re-energize, reorganize, and make more plans to attack more forces across the border and in afghanistan. >> you mentioned the administration's stance on this. let's listen to what president obama has said about this in the past. i'm convinced our security is at stake. this is the epicenter of violent extremism by al qaeda. from here we were attacked on 9/11. from here new attacks are being plotted as i speak. >> do they then go back to where they were in the battle against these extremists, or are they back at square one? >> well, i think they're hoping to go back to where they were.
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but if there's such a thing as a negative square, they could go there. that's how much backwards this country has gotten. remember, the obama administration no longer believes they can beat the insurgents with bombs and bul t bulle bullets. the newest strategy is setting aside $7.5 billion for social and economic development. these floods jam up that strategy. a big chunk of the money is now going to flood relief and flood recovery. what the obama administration wants to see is economic progress, democratic progress, social progress. and these monster floods are presenting a huge obstacle to that strategy. that's why you see a lot of concern from washington. >> and one sentence answer here quickly, reza. any concern about the nuclear elements in pakistan? that they can fall into the wrong hands in the midst of this
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calamity? >> there's a lot of talk about this often even before the floods. you've heard it from senior u.s. officials and certainly pakistani officials that those concerns are unfounded. both u.s. and pakistani officials continue to say these weapons are in safe hands. the cnn cover story "washed away" returns in a moment with more of dr. sanjay gupta's journey through the floods. >> reporter: a lot of people wonder how bad is the flooding here in southern pakistan. take a look at the map here. this is the indus river here. that's how wide it should be. right now it's this wide instead. we're on a boat. take a look. farce the eye can see, this is just water, power lines in the middle of it, all of this should be dry land.
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welcome back to cnn cover story "washed away." there was a moment through his journey when he found himself in the middle of thousands of families desperate for food and water. listen to sanjay and his producers describe what happened off camera. >> it was a little scary. you screamed. we didn't know what was going on. >> i was getting pulled back. someone -- i don't know who it was -- was pulling me back, and i was in a big group of people. and i just screamed. >> just being really attentive and observant of things going on. people may have weapons. you're on. you have to be really on the entire time. >> that's the back story, what they could not capture on camera.
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here is what they did capture. >> ever wonder what desperation looks like? this is it. the police are coming in to break up this dplon strags. so what happened here was locals set up a truck and try and steal as many supplies as they could. they're desperate. and they're quick to tell you about it. it wasn't so much anger as it was bitter frustration and hopelessness. thousands of displaced people being forgotten and ignored. here's how it's supposed to work. a much more organized camp, for example. a family over here. they have mats. they have tents. they can withstand a lot of the rain that's coming. look inside this tent over here, you see water jug. you see cooking oil. even cooking you tensiles. problem is, you won't find many camps like this one. most look like this. thousands of families.
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low on tents. low on food. thick with desperation. one of the really difficult situations here is that there's no mechanism of distributing the aid. it is just awful to think about. as people describe it to us they say it's just really embarrassing to be treated like animals. where is all the aid going? when you see trucks with aid in it and it doesn't seem to be getting to people who need it the most? so we followed this aid truck from a distance. first sign of hope these people felt in weeks. but what was about to happen was outray jous. first government rangers with big sticks organized. women and children here. men over there. all of them waiting in the hot sun. this is hard to believe. these people have been waiting now for some time for food. women and children over here and men over here. the truck was there with aid in it, pulled into the gas station. now they're just leaving. there was no explanation for this. and more importantly, all these people still hungry, still
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thirsty. this is incredibly heartbreaking. people were waiting for quite a while for that truck thinking they were going to get aid. they received nothing. this commander has the impossible task of trying to feed 20 million people. have you been outside of some of these kpamcamps and talked to t people? i hear what you're saying. when i talk to them i hear something entirely else. >> people are desperate. there are also people who have been very, very fair. i believe most of them are being fed regularly. >> i saw a different story in the refugee camps i visited. there's no regular meals here. desperation mounts. there's people just going in basically trying to get what they can get. just want to give you a quick idea of what can happen to some of the most precious commodities needed when something like this happens. there was just a riot out here. needed medicines, antibiotics ends up on the ground shattered,
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literally. desperation has its consequences. and in this case, no one benefited. >> when the cnn cover story returns, in a tent in the flood zone, sanjay gupta meets a young girl who can give us all a lesson in resilience. >> we're in this camp, right? and i come upon this girl who's doing her homework in the tent. and i was thinking in the midst of all that squalor and poverty and pain and all that, just doing her homework. what do you make of that? what does that mean for her, for that entire community of people living in that area and for everybody here in pakistan? what is the message for the rest of the world when we see something like that?
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welcome back to the cnn kor story. when sanjay fwup gupta was growing up he learned a bit of erdu from his mother. he used that language this past
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week. he did not expect to see this. >> here in pakistan, there are fields of dreams. they look like this. mixed with pain and poverty. but spend some time here, and look closer. so this is something maybe you wouldn't expect to see. we're in this tent, and all the kids in this particular tent are doing their homework. this is remsha. she's 8 years old. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> she's trying to do her school work, she's telling me. she tells me she wants to be a doctor. people here have dreams. just like remsha and a lot of the other kids that are here with her. they had a real house once, they tell me. it's now covered in water. she had her friends. she went to school. and, yes, she had dreams. it's reshma's story. it may not be much different than yours.
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starting with the neighborhoods they were forced to live. looking at all the images you may think people who were affected by this flood only lived in little grass huts. simply fot trnot true. people lived in neighborhoods as well, homes. all these people had to flee. and she ended up here, no idea how long she will stay. so she does her homework. and her parents' mission, establish some sort of normally for their kids. a routine for reshma rooted in religion. you're looking at aid being distributed here. this is rice with potatoes and chick peas. they put them in big buckets and distribute it to all these tents. one thing that might surprise you, they wait until sundown. this is ramadan. reshma and others in this camp are surprised when i spread reports about the floodwaters starting to recede. surprised because just this week another million people in southern pakistan became
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displaced. fleeing waters on the rise. she said she knows some english and she wanted to try that out with me as well. so what is your name? >> my name is alanin. >> okay. and you're answering for her. what is your name? >> my name is remsha. >> my name is remsha. >> very good. very good. nothing can change this reality. more than a dozen awful deaths over the past week here. and people who have lost everything, simply trying to survive. but that's the thing about hopes and dreams. they are spread equally throughout the world. and no one can take them away from you. p [ speaking in foreign language ] >> she says she really likes to go to school and she says she's studying really hard to be a doctor. do you think you can do it? you can do it. >> andat


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